Hey all. I’d like to open an official discussion regarding the upturning of the prior Hexbear party line on an :israel-cool: emote proper with the unambiguous Zionist flag.

I want to preface this by saying this is not in a ‘ceding the issue’ way. Over the past year I’ve been trying to engage in self-crit w/rt the chauvinism I’ve internalized growing up in a Liberal Zionist household, and my personal viewpoint on it did a 180 some months back, so I want to reopen this discussion proper in my personal capacities as Self-Appointed Emote Czar.

The reason it’s taken long enough beyond that is prior to July, I was essentially half-engaged with the site in order to finish out my degree. After that, it’s been mostly inertia of confirming with the admins and other /c/Judaism mods, as well as having to be rigorous about my job search personally giving me little free time to coordinate this.

I do not want to center myself in this conversation more than I inadvertently already have, so I will leave my own opinion on the issue as a comment rather than explaining further here.

The consensus we’ve roughly come to is to open up the discussion in an official manner for a day or so. After that, I’ll weigh the discussion in an entirely vibes-based manner (sorry Dean Norris enjoyers) and we’ll alter Hexbear party line on it accordingly.

lea-bounce

      • TheLepidopterists [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        13·
        4 months ago

        I think a couple different people got suggested as possible culprits and it was hard to tell who it was because they were operating heavily through alts.

        I don’t remember anyone suggesting that Nakoichi was responsible at the time, but because death threats were involved Z-poster brought up their own experiences with Nakoichi during the conversation around it which may be what you’re remembering?

    • FunkyStuff [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      19·
      4 months ago

      I know, I brought it up myself. I meant to ask which admin, not mod, had been defending that incident.

      FWIW I think they meant this thread in which Lyudmila essentially said to get over it, which I think is inappropriate regardless of how uncouth the user in question was being.

      • Aradino [they/them, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        22·
        4 months ago

        I cannot imagine being so mad about a single removed comment deep in an interpersonal argument that was litigated over a year ago. You keep coming back and banging a drum about the same three or four personal squabbles unendingly. It’s like a depressing, terminally online ultraleftist version of Groundhog Day.

        Dont like being told to die? God you’re so online stop being dramatic.

        Jesus Christ

        • FunkyStuff [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          161·
          4 months ago

          Yeah, very gaslight-ish argument.

          Now, there isn’t a way to say this without coming across as victim blaming or bothsidesing, but I can also see why Lyudmila reacted that way. Someone who was, at minimum, imitating Zposter has posted some extremely bad things before (to save you a click, they were using an incident of SA against an activist in PSL by another activist in PSL to defend the PCUSA). I think given this context I don’t expect Lyudmila to be removed over this incident, but I don’t think her response there should go unnoticed either.

          edit: Could be a copycat

          • anon_ascend [none/use name]@hexbear.netBannedEnglish
            15·
            4 months ago

            How do you know that’s even them? They appear to have copy cats and that was a short-lived account

            I was just randomly banned on Sharia Law Z because Admins said I was a Z sockpuppet and I’m not.

            edit: They are using different pronouns and talk in a totally different way, and none of Zs accounts have blatant typos in them either